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Manufacturer: Vaneli’s Espresso Machines
List Price: $416.00
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Roma Doserless Grinder Black
The Roma is a fantastic grinder for the home, office, or light commercial use. Rated at 2-3 lbs of espresso per day. Built to give years of dependable service and will fit under most cabinets.
Roma Doserless Grinder Black Features:
- High quality espresso grinder
- Durable metal body for long life
- Designed to grind directly into portafilter
- Removable tray for easy clean-up
- Ideal for home, office or commercial use
Roma Doserless Grinder Black Reviews
you should buy this grinder…..
After researching espresso grinders for many months, and narrowing my list of worthy candidates, it came time to buy. The problem I then had to deal with was the size of my budget. Knowing how vital the quality of espresso grind is to the quality of espresso shot, regardless of espresso machine quality, i decided on either a Mazzer or Macap grinder. I own a Solis sl70 machine with a non-pressurized basket, which is a capable little machine if matched with a quality grinder. Without a good grinder your espresso will be mediocre at best. With this knowledge in the back of my head, I was still hesitant to spend over $450 for a Mazzer(my Solis was only $350 after all). I set out to find a good grinder in the $200-250 range. After finding several crappy, plastic variations of the same thing, I stumbled on the Roma put out by Vaneli’s. I took a chance on it, and have been so impressed. It is made in Milan, Italy by a commercial grinder company and labeled Vaneli’s. This thing is built like a tank, weighing at least 10 pounds, and the grind is more consistent than any I have seen, even from large commercial grinders. This grinder transformed my coffee making. In about two minutes I had it dialed in giving me amazing, 25 second, crema filled shots. My buddy ordered one as well and has never pulled such beautiful shots from his Francis X5. This grinder is well worth the $200 selling price, nothing out there comes close to this level of quality.
Rocky Schmockey
Now that I’ve had this grinder over a month I decided to write a review. At $200 this is the best burr grinder I could find. I almost bought a Rancillio Rocky but decided to give this one a try instead. I have a Gaggia Coffee Deluxe machine and w/ this grinder and some Café Vita Café Del Sol I’m able to make sublime espresso w/ loads of crema. Additionally I can make some pretty righteous French press too. As for the doser size my Gaggia porta-filter is the typical size of a commercial machine so I think it fits perfectly.
For 200 bucks this grinder is everything I could want. I love that I can adjust it all the way from perfect little French Press chunks to Turkish Powder that will easily choke my machine. In between I’ve got it totally dialed in to make consistent ~25 second shots that almost never disappoint. It is true that many variables affect the outcome of a shot but surely a high quality grinder is one of the most important. As many people have already noted you WILL NEVER make a great shot without a great grinder.
Bregant Grinder
I ordered this grinder with some trepidation since I had never even heard of a “Roma” grinder. Moreover, my initial reaction upon opening the box that the grinder arrived in was pure irritation, since it arrived without any paperwork, no manual, and no instructions of any kind. Based on this, my initial reaction was just to return the grinder.
However, after examining the grinder carefully, I realized that it had been made by Bregant in Milan (good news) in 2004 (which means it must have sat in a warehouse somewhere for awhile) and that for all practical intents and purposes, this grinder seems to be the same as a Pasquini K2 Moka (generally sold at more than twice the price of this one) with a slightly different housing and hopper.
Accordingly, I decided to give it a try. And, I must say, I am very impressed. The grinder grinds extremely evenly with no detectable dust. Moreover, the grounds feel cool to the touch out of the grinder, and there was no static (I have a humidity meter and the humidity in my house is a bit over 50% … perhaps there might be some static under drier circumstances, but I had no problems with static at all).
But the real proof of the grinder is in the espresso. And again I must say I am very pleased. Right off the bat, after adjusting the grinder until the grounds looked and felt about right for espresso, I more than doubled the crema of my shots (over a quarter of an inch of pure beautiful crema) without making any other adjustments.
I should note here that I personally think most baristas have a tendency to grind their coffee just a little too fine. Sure, espresso needs to be ground fine, but it should not be so fine that it tastes bitter. I have found that grinding not so fine, but tamping a bit harder to compensate, gives me the kind of espresso I really like.
In any case, the setting I prefer on this grinder is at just below seven. And it turns out that at this level, even though the coffee looks similar to the output of my previous grinder, since this grinder grinds more evenly than my previous one, it also calls for a harder tamping of the grounds at about the same average level of fineness. This makes sense, since there is virtually no floury dust in the grounds to clog things up in the filter.
Now for the negatives: First, depending on the shape of your portafilter, it may not be all that easy to trigger the grinder by placing the portafilter below the spout. Next, if you remove your filterbasket from the portafilter and try to grind directly into the filterbasket, the grounds will not fall into the center of the basket but rather to the side of the basket that is closer to the grinder. So, if you want to grind directly into the basket you have to keep turning it as you grind. This can get a bit messy.
Based on this, I decided to try things a bit differently. Instead of grinding directly into the portafilter, I grind into a small measuring cup instead. For this purpose I use a measuring cup that is deeper, but has a smaller diameter, than my filterbasket. This measuring cup has a handle on the side and it sits perfectly on the activator knob for starting the grinder and receiving the grounds. While I am grinding I leave the portafilter on my espresso machine until I have the dose I want in the measuring cup. To get the grounds into the portafilter, I then place the portafilter over the measuring cup and turn the two over so that the grounds fall into the filterbasket. This works perfectly every time with no mess at all.
This is not a grinder for everyone. Make sure that you really want a doserless grinder and also that you are prepared to make some adjustments for getting the coffee into your portafilter before buying this grinder. However, if you are willing to make the proper adjustments, this grinder is a steal at $199.
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